by Mike Winger
This is the "big reveal" moment in the Gospel of Mark. It turns out that Jesus was highly anticipated and largely misunderstood. What Jesus does in Mark 8 is to keep us from misunderstanding who He is or what He has come to do. It's really remarkable! Come and see how the cross is at the center of the purposes of Christ and how Jesus wanted to make sure that nobody interpreted Him apart from His death and resurrection. This is part 29 in the Mark series, here's a link to the whole playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ3iRMLYFlHuGenHwUdeiQ5M-uj5XW4sF If you want to support this ministry then please click here. https://biblethinker.org/index.php/donate
Series:Mark
Duration:57:58

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this passage in mark is the big reveal this is the big unveiling Jesus is showing us the thing that's misunderstood about the Messiah the thing that people don't get about Jesus in the first century as well even nowadays a lot people are missing the central aspect of the mission and person of Christ they're missing it it's the center of the Gospel of Mark margate right here this is it this is like the big unveiling moment if there was a soundtrack to mark their reach dramatic music at this point it's kind of important you can't miss this part although a lot of people do miss it so let me just give you just this set the stage for us mark shows us as we go through the Gospel of Mark some people talk about the Messianic secret of Mark that through mark there is this sort of constant command from Jesus like don't tell people about what I'm doing here don't tell them this thing that I did this healing that I performed that kind of thing well at the same time he's doing miracles that are clearly in mark meant to tell the audience or the readers of mark who Jesus really is so we have this kind of like interplay of this sort of confusing what is why is Jesus not telling us who he is why why is are these miracles revealing who he is what's going on here and basically what we're getting from the Gospel of Mark and the other Gospels in general is that Jesus the Jewish Messiah the long-expected Jewish Messiah he was highly anticipated and largely misunderstood and that is the whole like framing you need in the Gospel of Mark to understand this messianic secret the Messiah was highly anticipated and largely misunderstood and this section in mark is where Jesus is going to reveal something essential about the Messiah that they didn't get but he refuses to allow you to interpret who he is without this element in other words it's like hey here's something you central about Jesus you got to know this so this is meant to clarify who Jesus is and what his big mission really is we're gonna read through mark 8 verse 27 through 30 38 we're gonna read through that section then we're gonna go over at verse by verse and just be thoughtfully studying and understanding it again this is a the mark series I believe this is part 29 in the series if you're watching online and you want to catch the the whole series there's gonna be a link for a playlist in the description or somewhere wherever you're watching this video should be a link somewhere nearby you can check out the whole playlist all right mark 827 let's just soak up the passage think about it and then we'll analyze it thoughtfully Jesus went out along with his disciples to the villages of Caesarea Philippi and on the way he questioned his disciples saying to them who do people say that I am they told him saying John the Baptist and others say Elijah but others one of the prophets and he continued by questioning them but who do you say that I am Peter answered and said to him you are the Christ and he warned them to tell no one about him tell no one about him and he began to teach them that the Son of man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed and after three days rise again and as and he was stating the matter plainly and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him but turning around and seeing his disciples he rebuked Peter and said get behind me Satan for you were not setting your mind on God's interests but man's and he summoned the crowd with his disciples and said to them if anyone wishes to come after me he must deny himself take up his cross and follow me and whoever wishes to save his life will lose it but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel's will save it for what is it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul for what will a man give in exchange for his soul for whoever is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation the son of man will also be ashamed of him when he comes in the glory of his father with the Holy Angels so that's that's the whole section and this is I think this is one section I think it should be treated as one thing if I could give you a quick overview right Jesus is like hey who do they think I am and they're all confused right they don't understand exactly who Jesus is he's like I'm the crook you know reveals through Peter yes that's me I'm the Christ I'm the Messiah the long-awaited Messiah first thing he does after confirming openly his identity and I'm gonna die and rise again I'm gonna be rejected Peter because he has highly anticipated the Messiah and largely misunderstood him he's upset with Jesus saying seeming to affirm he's the Messiah but then that he's gonna die and rise he's like no way you know this is not gonna happen this is this is what the Messiah does and now you see why Jesus wouldn't reveal his himself as openly because of this misconception he rebuked Peter get behind me Satan and then he turns and tells everybody guess what not only am I gonna die you need to die you got to take up your cross and follow me something that you weren't expecting when you decided to be a disciple of Christ now this is death is in different senses and all this there's a lot of stuff to unpack but that's kind of the overview of this passage let's look now at verse 27 it says Jesus went out along with his disciples to the villages of Caesarea Philippi and on the way he questioned his disciples saying to them who do the people say that I am they told him saying John the Baptist another say Elijah but others one of the prophets in the context of Mark 8 these are all wrong answers ok this isn't John the Baptist he's not Elijah he's not one of the prophets that's actually what Islam says Jesus is he's just one of the prophets we'll come back to that in a minute but these answers are wrong but we can learn a lot from them we can like evaluate the wrong answers about Jesus and we learned how people even today try to misinterpret Christ misunderstand Jesus even some Christians they just it's just not clicking what Jesus was meant to do because when we think about the Messiah or the the great one or the one that God promised we don't naturally think he's gonna do what Jesus ends up doing like we would we would create some sort of superhero version that would be totally different than what Christ actually did so with John the Baptist there were really two parts let's talk about why they called him John the Baptist and how that was wrong there were two parts to John's ministry one part of John's ministry was he's called people to repentance and to live for God so he was like a moral reformer and he was he was a moral reformer that's not all he was but he was a moral reformer in John 1:23 he said I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness make straight the way of the Lord as Isaiah the prophet said he's like he's like get your life straight it's kind of what he's saying fix yourself your culture your lives get it right before God in John 1 31 he says in addition to this he says so that he might be manifested to Israel I came baptizing in water but that's not a moral reformers job right he's like the one that he is Jesus and he's like so that Jesus could be known I came baptizing with water so now John had another side of his ministry not moral reformer but forerunner for the Messiah forerunner for the one so he's preparing the way for the one in mark one for in mark one for we we get I'm kind of both of these things says John the Baptist appear in the wilderness preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins so he's not only telling you to get your life right he's giving you a way of forgiveness and it's a picture of the of the Christ we talked about this early on in mark 1 for how that baptism of John pictures the Messiah because it's a is it for its forgiveness without sacrifice forgiveness somehow apart from the temple and the question is left in the air well where's the sacrifice for all this forgiveness John keeps offering and then Jesus shows up and he says behold the lamb of God and so we see there's more to John's ministry than just moral reform there's also preparing the way for the one now in mark 1 verses 7 and 8 we get this as well with John it says and he was preaching and saying after me one is coming who is mightier than I and I'm not fit to stoop down and untie the thong of his sandals i baptize you with water but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit ok so John is a is a is a forerunner for Christ he wasn't meant to point people to Jesus that was his main ministry everything he does is wrapped up in that but the reason why I bring all this up is when they say Jesus is John the Baptist they clearly don't see John's forerunner status because if they saw John as the forerunner they would they would recommend Jesus as the one but to say Jesus is John the Baptist it means they only saw John as a moral reformer think about that it means they only saw John is that moral reformer so they missed what John was saying they missed that John was the forerunner for Christ and the point here is that this is a wrong answer because Jesus is more than a forerunner and more than a reformer he's more than John the Baptist he's not just someone who's coming saying you guys you just been living wrong you just got to live right I'm gonna show you the right way to live and I want you to follow me about doing what I'm doing so the Jesus life becomes like sort of a kind and gentle and gracious and loving life but that's that that's not the whole story with Jesus you're misinterpreting Christ and he won't let you do it here in mark 8 he won't allow it if you just think he's sort of a moral reformer he's not merely a reformer of our morals the next thing that they said was okay some people are saying you're Elijah now this is eschatological this is interesting because John they thought of him as like a sort of a reformer maybe even a prophet you know actually they did generally think of him as a prophet but with with Elijah when they say you're Elijah Elijah this is this is like a an Old Testament prophet come back is what they're saying they're saying hey you're Elijah now this is eschatological meaning it's like about future prophecy but in times so to speak and they're saying Ah Elijah is supposed to come back and he's the one who's gonna get everything right before you know we enter into the kingdom and the Messiah actually himself shows up so they think he's not the Messiah here he's the forerunner for the Messiah now this is confusing a bit because John the Baptist was in the spirit and power of Elijah the scripture tells us we'll come we'll talk more about this a little bit later and Mark how he was in the spirit in the power of Elijah yet there is a moment in the future where Elijah will come and I think revelation talks about this as well so we we have that happening in the future so they're saying it's about fulfilling prophecy that's good that's good let me quote to you the Old Testament text they get this from the idea that Elijah is coming and they are thinking Jesus was him and Malachi verses chapter 4 verse 5 and 6 God wrote had written for us behold I am going to sin to you Elijah the Prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord he will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse so the idea here is that Jesus is merely a great great and wonderful prophet and a forerunner for some other greater thing Jesus isn't the whole deal right he's he's just a forerunner for the greater thing and I think what's happening here is they're recognizing there's this in times coming but they don't see that Jesus is coming is in two stages he has his first coming in his second coming this is the classic thing that they did not understand they didn't look at the death and resurrection of Christ as being a thing that was gonna happen at all they just saw the prophecies of the final kingdom of God and they thought that Messiah was gonna just bring that right away so one way people have Illustrated this is to say it's like looking at the prophetic landscape ahead of us based upon the Old Testament the the the ancient Jewish mind is is seeing a giant mountain ahead and they see the mountain ahead in the mountain ahead is like the coming of the Messiah and the coming of the kingdom of God what they don't realize is there's actually two mountains in the distance with a valley between and so there's the first coming in the second coming but by kind of smashing them together they just sort of ditched the details of the first coming and focused on the second coming because that's the good news right that's that's the restoral of all these things and they missed out on it so Jesus is not a forerunner he's the one he's the son of God he's that he has the power to forgive he's the lord of the Sabbath he is the Christ himself another one is and I'll just mention this to think that Jesus is Elijah means that they missed what Elijah was all about anyways to think that Jesus is John means they missed what John was all about anyways their understanding Jesus or John at that point the third one was ecologies is one of the prophets one of the prophets in other words Jesus is just like a generic but wonderful Messenger of God just a wonderful Messenger of God he's just one of the prophets the problem with this is that the prophets themselves all speak of Jesus I mean he can't be one of them when they're all about him everything that was written was written about Christ ultimately he is them he is the meta-narrative of the text of the Bible and if you're interested in that check out the Jesus in the Old Testament series that was my favorite thing I've ever taught through love that series it's such a joy to go through so he's like another messenger from God now there's modern equivalents to this modern equivalents Islam thinks that Jesus is just another prophet of Allah in fact I've heard Muslim apologists in public say that Jesus was a Muslim now you don't understand Christianity very well or gee very well if you can say this but this is a claim Jesus was Muslim he's a prophet of Allah but I've also heard New Age people say that Jesus was a New Age guru have you heard this Jesus was a New Age guru what are they doing they're like oh he's one of we have this idea of messengers or of spiritual people and Jesus is one of those so we're not gonna say he's just a normal guy we're gonna give him spiritual status but will it will put our framing upon him in this case Islam or New Age some say well Jesus is one of the great sages I knew someone who was part of a strange cult in LA and they would gather together and they would receive messages from these great sages of the past and they would write down special words they weren't supposed to share with anybody else and there's member of this group shared with me his notebook with the special words he was like you can't share this does anybody else know I'm not sharing with you what it said but I'll tell you tell you this much it was gibberish it was it was I mean it was literally nonsense words like three words together that didn't make any sense it just didn't and he and he was like flipping through it was that I was a sadist thing it was you see the darkness upon his mind he couldn't tell that what he was looking at and literally didn't make any sense some kind of weird spiritual thing but they believed that while they were channeling these messages one of the people they channeled was Jesus right so he's one of our he's one of our spirit guides Buddhists what do you think they say about Jesus Jesus was a Buddhist well the the the Jew who looks at Jesus and says he's just another one of the prophets makes the same mistake as the one who thinks he's a Muslim or a New Age guru or a great sage or a Buddhist or an incarnation of Buddha some people would think why do I say this because they all three of those ain't all four of those answers or five of those answers they all miss out on two things about Jesus Jesus is more than a man or even a mere messenger of God He is God himself with us and he is doing something that no one else has ever done ever done also he isn't merely merely calling us to write living he's saving us through his death and resurrection and that's the center of the Gospel of Mark right here in mark a is that his death and resurrection are the big thing there's a human tendency to diminish Jesus but at the center of Christianity we have who Jesus really is and what Jesus really did and the I would encourage anyone who thinks you think Jesus is a Buddhist or a sage or he's he's a Muslim or he's just a great spiritual leader and a nice moral reformer is go read the words of Jesus yourself he doesn't let you interpret him that way it's dishonouring to Christ to call him a Great Sage I like what CS Lewis said he said after saying the things that Jesus said he's either Lord or he's a liar or he's a lunatic but don't just say he's a nice guy and don't you because no nice guys like you know here I'm God worship me I'm gonna save you I'm the only way to heaven what a nice guy I either you're right or you're crazy or you're lying those are the options the Lord liar or lunatic argument that I see as Lewis brought forward and I think that we have this human tendency to reinterpret Jesus to fit into whatever box we would like him to fit into and that's that's what mark is keeping it from happening here in verse 29 it says any continued by questioning them but who do you say that I am Peter answered and said to him you are the Christ now there's more to this story about Peter and Jesus and their interaction right here I'm not gonna focus on that because we're in the Gospel of Mark I really want to focus on this is the whole point the whole point is Jesus is the Christ that's the whole point he is the Messiah he is the Christ he is the Christ so he's not the forerunner he's the actual one when when I say Christ and Messiah and I use those words as synonyms because they are synonyms they mean the same thing so in the Greek it's the word Christos which is Christ right we translate put it into Christ sort of transliterated into English in Hebrew it's Messiah or Messiah and these are the same word just in different languages and it the etymology of the word like when you break the word down into its pieces it means Anointed One but that's not what the word means like let's there's actually something called the etymological fallacy I hope you guys heard of this etymological fallacy is when you think a word means whatever its constituent parts mean but words usually mean a lot more than that and sometimes the parts of the word are actually radically different than the meaning of the word because we just use words like Google we use the word but we don't we're not as I don't know what the constituent parts of Google mean it's you know if there are constituent parts to it but at one point it represented a number value at some point another point in other context it represented a company but now we use it like a verb like it means you're searching online for something and so you have to look at the usage of the word anyway the word Messiah the word Christ that came to be used as like the ultimate mess deal not just messenger but the ultimate coming one of God he was in the comedies can establish the kingdom of God on earth he was gonna do it all he was gonna make it all happen this is what the ultimate scriptures were all about there was this great Messianic expectation that they had and so when he says you are the Christ it's saying you're the one who will restore the Jewish people you were the one who will bring the kingdom of God you were the one who will fulfill the promises of God to the people of Israel that's what they're thinking but they're mostly thinking that this involves killing a lot of Gentiles and setting up a physical Kingdom on earth because they have misunderstood the mission of the Messiah so they misunderstood they had some biblical expectations but they had like extra biblical ones too they thought and we've got research on this like what did the Jews think of the Messiah back then they thought he was going to bring an army destroy the Gentiles restore Israel to Davidic glory in one source we have from the Qumran caves these ancient writings from back at the time of Christ it says that the Messiah specifically when he comes he will kill the Roman Emperor do you see the problem with Jesus saying I'm the Messiah and there's the good luck yes let's go kill him do you wonder why Jesus says don't tell anybody and then the next thing he says is and I'm gonna die in Rise because they don't understand his mission that's the idea this is the purpose of the Messianic secret they call it a mark that scholars have a field day with I think the answer is right here in the text it's the purpose is to fix their misconceptions about what the Messiah was gonna do in Scripture unlike the Jews who had no room for a cross for the Messiah just like Peter representing these Jews for god forbid you would die no no I can't even hear it I can't even think about it don't even say those things that this was the attitude but but Jesus his attitude as I must die when you look at Psalm 22 Isaiah 52 and 53 we see that this was this is what was prophesied it just wasn't expected sometimes our expectations don't fit the scripture we need a little scripture guide us in verse 30 he warns them to tell no one about him and the answer I think is plain right why because all their misconceptions are gonna cause all kinds of problems even the disciples didn't really understand the mission of Jesus even when they're told about it they're like scratching their head like this must be some sort of parable he can't really mean that right like he says he's gonna die and rise again like what he really means is kill the Roman Emperor like it must mean something other than that there's there's confused understandably they have a lot of thoughts that aren't necessarily biblical even though they're Biblica because they might have to do with the second coming of Christ they may have to do with the ultimate kingdom but they're mixed up with a bunch of other things verse 31 it says any began to teach them that the Son of man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed and after three days rise again I don't know if they really heard they after three days rise again part because the and be rejected by think about this rejected by who the elders chief priests and scribes all of the people who are leading the people of Israel in our culture we don't have these kinds of leaders so much our culture's kind of we're kind of unique I think as far as who we look to the lead us in our culture some people they have different different faces that they consider their trustworthy sources of leadership and it were really sort of fragmented in that but but in their culture that the chief priests the scribes the Pharisees like that's it dude these are the leaders these are the Jewish leaders of the Jewish people they're all gonna reject me what this doesn't compute it doesn't make sense to them he's gonna suffer and that he's gonna be killed be killed and then he's gonna rise again now these are exactly the things they would not expect these are exactly the things that also accomplish salvation these things are essential to the mission of Jesus and they're totally like even offensive to the expectations of the Jewish people this is the reason for the Messianic secret this is the big reveal I'm gonna suffer die and rise again that's the that's the big reveal notice the word must in verse 31 he began to teach them that the Son of man must suffer finally he's teaching him these things I have to suffer I have to die I'll be rejected I will rise again why must he suffer I'm gonna give you a couple reasons one it's prophetic like it's God's gonna do what he said he's gonna do with Jesus it's prophetic and this is kind of what Jesus comes back to later after his death and resurrection he has a conversation with the disciples on the road to Emmaus so these two disciples and Jesus is talking with them they don't realize it's him yet he's right he's risen they don't realize it's him and they're chatting with him and there Jesus reveals to them well I'll just read to you in his words Luke 24 25 he said to them o foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken not in II but all they believed in lots of things the prophets had said but not all of it so he says you're slow and hard to believe in all that the prophets have spoken was it not necessary for the Christ the Messiah right to suffer these things and to enter into his glory so he's saying if you had more carefully read the scriptures you would have you would be like of course this has to happen of course this has to happen so it's prophetic this is Jesus has to do this because God said he'll do it but the other thing is it saves us I mean this is the gospel of our salvation my salvation is purchased by the death and resurrection of Christ he identifies with me going to the cross it's in him I died and I were and I rise to my sins are washed away Jesus is salvation that's actually what his name means as God is salvation Yeshua Romans 3:25 listen to the phrase in his blood or by his blood that we get in these verses I'm about to share with you so blood represents the life of a person or of a being especially in sacrificial connotations or census so like in the temple when they're offering an animal for sacrifice it's like the life is in the blood so the blood is offered on the altar because the blood represents the animal's life sacrifice surely okay so with that in context these versus Romans 3:25 says about Jesus whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in his blood through faith so he was a sacrifice his death is what is gonna accomplish the propitiating or the the dealing dealing with my sin dealing with the judgment that would fall upon me because of my sin reconciling me to God Romans 5:9 says much more than having been justified by his blood we shall be saved from the wrath of God through him so the jesus's death is about this sacrifice to save me to forgive me for my sins Ephesians 1:7 into him we have redemption through his blood the forgiveness of our trespasses according to the riches of His grace Colossians 1:20 says and through him to reconcile all things to himself having made peace through the blood of his cross through him I say whether things on earth or in heaven so this is this is Christianity 101 right like in hindsight you're like duh Mike this is like the first thing you learn as a Christian but it was totally confusing to them and it's confusing to a lot of people even today even people who think they're Christians I've ever had those conversations where you you're not like mad at the person you're just you're trying to help them understand that maybe what they think they know they don't know yet and so you ask him like well why did Jesus die and they go I know this one no I know this I know there's a good answer here I got it somewhere I know I can't think of it or you ask people like are you gonna go to heaven then they say yes I'm gonna be eternally with God or you have eternal life yes why because I'm a good person and you're like well what about your sin Oh God forgives that he just forgives it like why does he forgive it because he's loving you're missing something I mean this truly forgives you because he loves you but you're missing a really important element Jesus is like I must suffer be rejected die and rise the scripture tells us over and over again it was this blood of Jesus this sacrificial death that washes us of our sins he paid for my sand so that God could be holy and forgiving holy and just in punishing or dealing with sin with his wrath or his his his public display of his displeasure of sin along with still forgiving us it's God's holy and forgiving both because of Christ so in verse 32 he's telling them really plainly about all this stuff it says he was stating the matter plainly when he states it plainly I think the point of that commentary in mark is to say I mean it's divine inspired commentary I I know if someone's like you called it commentary I don't mean that I mean Mark's telling us what Jesus was doing so he's commenting her but it's inspired you give it I'm saying right don't be confused I get comments I'm YouTube I'm just saying I can hear him already come so the point I think of this is to say that Jesus sometimes said things in sort of more readily form or parable type form and the disciples would just sort of walk away going huh and they didn't get it right but here Jesus says it so plainly that they really do understand like he's telling us he's gonna suffer be rejected by these specific groups die and then rise again so Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him and this is a good advice whenever you have a correction for someone who's a leader over you take them aside right I learned this the hard way I remember in staff meeting wanting to disagree with something our church was doing and I was like I thought its staff mean this is like where we talked him are honest and open and I slowly learned that I should just pull my pastor aside and had a nice one-on-one conversation I think that was probably not the wisest opportunity so that was that was the only mistake I ever made on staff at her church though for sure but yes take them aside so Peter takes him aside he's smart here he's he's not what this means though is Peter had the wisdom to take him aside right he's not just like good people people make fun of Peter a lot right they call him big mouth Peter or Peter has the foot-and-mouth disease right now open mouth insert foot that sort of thing but he takes him aside and it's understandable especially in his context why he couldn't accept the Messiah was gonna die it's understandable so he decides to rebuke Jesus and then verse 33 which is not a good but turning around and seeing his disciples Jesus turns and sees disciples so he's not only concerned about Peter but he's aware of them overhearing Peter trying to rebuke him or being aware of this moment of correction and so he rebukes Peter and said get behind me Satan for you were not setting your mind on God's interests but man's so Jesus finally says I have a cross finally totally reveals at the big unveiling the big essential part of the Messiah that nobody was paying attention to to save us Peter freaks out and why did he rebuke Jesus I think we understand it was not only love for Jesus but it was because he just knew that that wasn't what was gonna happen in the Messiah he just knew that the Messiah was just gonna create a victory for the Jewish people there was no sin to die for because they weren't paying attention to that so Peter knew Jesus he knew who Jesus was the Christ but he did not understand what Jesus was doing and Jesus and mark is revealing to us that you need both you need to not only know that Jesus is Lord that Jesus is the Messiah you need to know that he dies for your sins and he rises for your justification that's the thing you gotta know the gospel there are those who like Peter when is suggests a ultimately satanic idea and I get that from Jesus because he says get behind me Satan I don't think that Peter was possessed I think that he's trying to say that this idea of yours is from the adversary this is against my very person and my very mission to not die on the cross there are those who would say that Jesus is death on the cross was not necessary for our salvation and there are some who would say it was just Paul it was just Paul the Apostle who later came on and came along and changed the gospel and he like altered things because Jesus was really just a moral reformer making us get our lives right with God through obedience and good works and then Paul comes along and he's got this whole thing about justification and the cross makes this means all these things that Jesus had never intended but here we have it here we have it from the mouth of Jesus so there are many today who debate about this messianic secret in the Gospels and they have a lot of fanciful ideas but I think what I'm trying to get across here is one of my goals with that mark series is that those who've been exposed to more like liberal weird unbelieving in some cases interpretations of the Gospel of Mark will get grounded in what's actually happening in the text based on context not just my claims the point here is the context is that this is the great reveal moment Jesus finally tells plainly not only shows who he is he's the Christ but what his mission is and how that is so important he calls you Satan if you try to get around it that's kind of a big deal and and it gives us why Jesus did it right because they lacked wrong like Peter did because because Jesus will not let you interpret him here's a big point he won't let you interpret him without the cross and the resurrection he won't let you understand the mission of the Messiah without the cross and the resurrection it's essential it's not just something that happened at the end that just is thrown on there like where Jesus shows how he's loving and he won't strike back at those who kill him that's true but that's not the point right there's more to it than that so the Messiah has a cross and the next thing he says is he then adds another difficulty on top of this after saying the Messiah has a cross is gonna die and rise he looks at the crowd and tells them you have a cross - and this applies to us because we want to follow Jesus we have a cross let's talk about that verse 34 and he summoned the crowd with his disciples and said to them if anyone wishes to come after me he must must Maresa the son of man must suffer be rejected die and rise now he says if you want to come after me you must deny deny himself and take up his cross and follow me so what does it mean to take up my cross I have I think four points I tried to like categorize what it means to take up your cross and I put it into four points these are my points this is my understanding of this so I'm just gonna try I try to make things structured sometimes and it helps me and understanding them so I'm gonna give you four points what it means to take up my cross and the first one is it means dying with Christ and I stress with Christ because I'm identifying myself with Christ like I'm not actually going to go on to a cross get nailed onto it and die but rather I am identifying myself with cry so that by faith I am now in Christ and in his death I've already died so there's an identification this is this is what how is when you get to say man I believe I trust in Jesus now I'm dead with Christ I died with him Romans 6 8 are you some scriptures that support this Romans 6 8 says now if we have died with Christ we believe that we shall also live with him if we've died with Christ this is like a past tense those who are living and breathing at the time serving the Lord they've died with Christ because they're positionally in Christ 1st Corinthians 15:22 it says for as in Adam all die so in Christ all will be made alive and here's a cool theology thing where you look and you compare Adam to Jesus we've done this before but the idea is that Adam represents all of us in the garden failing God Jesus goes on our behalf on the behalf of you and me and he dies to pay for the sins of man so that we can all be forgiven so just as in Adam all die so in Christ all can be restored renewed forgiven the best explanation of this is in Romans 5 and then the latter part of 1st Corinthians 15 if you want to get more into the Adam Christ whole concept it's Romans 5 in 1st Corinthians 15 those are the two passages so this is some people call out representation or identification it's like I'm in Christ so when I take up my cross the first part of that is simply believing in Jesus and trusting in him and what he did on my behalf I'm now I'm dead with Christ I died with Christ so I'm not actually you're not gonna get killed necessarily you might but that's different this is this is different all right the second thing is being forgiven by grace so identify with Christ that's part of taking up my cross another one is being forgiven by grace as opposed to law or works so the Bible sort of presents two paths of salvation one of them everyone can try and everyone will absolutely fail and the other one anyone can try and everyone who does will absolutely succeed and so there's like the impossible path and there's the possible path the impossible path is through law obedience be righteous right God will never send an actually good truly good person to hell because they're good like they've made it they're perfectly righteous at which point someone says I'm good but I'm not lighting that good you know and I'm like well that's the problem right like that's the problem we have seen issues before God and so that's the law the law path the law obedience path right but when identify with Christ I have a different path that's successful the path is Jesus lived the perfect life on my behalf Jesus died on the cross to suffer for my sins and I have put my faith and trust in him so that his sacrifice the blood of his sacrifice cleanses me of my sin and that works for everyone regardless how much sin you've committed again this is gospel 101 stuff right this is believe in Jesus and you'll be forgiven so that's the second part of this we get this in the book of Romans we get this in the book of Galatians it expands on it in great detail Galatians 3:13 here's a verse to support this it says Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law having become a curse for us for it is written cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree in Galatians what he's saying is look when you take that law path and you sin the law says now you got to die guess what Jesus did he died for your sin so that law has been satisfied that now through Christ you can be forgiven so taking up your cross in the case of these first two identification and forgiveness is just believing in trusting in Christ that's all you do you just trust in him that's the take I'm taking up my cross when I just trust in him to be my salvation to be my righteousness the third thing what does it mean to take up your cross is saying goodbye to the godless life and lifestyle that's a third thing and the rescript refer this to Romans 6:6 it says knowing this that our old self was crucified with him in order that our body of sin might be done away with so that we would no longer be slaves to sin and we can walk and live out this new life as a result of that faith I've put in Jesus I am now that that cross that he bore I've identified with him but something spiritually has really happened and I am now set free from the control of the sinful flesh in my life and you're like are you sure about that Mike like you still have to work this out in your life yourself to walk it out daily and walk in the spirit not fulfill the lust of the flesh that's the daily battle so it doesn't mean though that we have a passionless life and that's what some people think oh so it there's no passion in the Christian life I think rather the Christian life is full of pure passions that's the idea very passionate but pure passions intense love intense care joy all those wonderful things they're just meant to be pure and not tainted by sin and that's the life we want to pursue so how do we do it Galatians it tells us that what we have now is we have a renewed spirit we have a crucified flesh but guess what the crucified flesh is still pressing on you to sin do you feel it filler right now you're thinking you want to get food instead of finish this Bible study that's like that's a mortal sin I think actually just kidding every since mortal actually so that's another debate but uh but yeah but Jesus forgives you for all of them and you don't have to do that we saw David said different different discussion anyhow what we do now have is this battle between the spirit in the flesh and as Christians I think we should think of our daily walk as a battle between the spirit in the flesh Galatians 5:16 it says but I say walk by the spirit and you will not carry out the desires of the flesh so I have to look at me and say look I have two sets of desires I have desires to do sin that's the flesh I've desires to do godly things that's the spirit and I have a choice in the middle which one will I obey and our call is to write I'm crucified with Christ to take up that cross and to walk in walk in the truth and the light that Jesus has given me through the cross Galatians 5:24 through 25 he said now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires if we live by the spirit let us also walk by the spirit so it's a call to go from positionally how we're in Christ to living it out conditionally in our life if you live by the spirit come on let's walk by the spirit we're like we're telling Christians come on get up live for the Lord live for the Lord resign yourself to walk in the spirit in Luke 9 29 23 Jesus is it's a parallel passage in the Gospel of Luke where he also offers the same like discussion with Peter and after that discussion with Peter he says that you should take up your cross and it adds the word daily and follow him that's really interesting in Luke how has the word daily so being crucified with Christ is is also like a daily practice a daily thing I live out of my life that I am crucified with Christ so I daily I'm gonna walk in the light of that you experienced this every time you face temptation and you say to yourself no I died with Christ I don't need sin to rule over my life to rule over my myself and you through the victory of the Cross you set aside the not just the desire to sin but the choice to sin you choose not to do that and you follow Christ but you do it through him there's one passage that incorporates all three of these dying with Christ identification being forgiven by grace not law in the third one saying goodbye to the godless life and lifestyle that we live before one passage incorporates all three of these I think and it's Galatians two verses 19 through 20 let me read it to you for through the law I died to the law that I might live to God there's that identification and forgiveness I have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer I who live but Christ lives in me and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave himself up for me and this is this walking in the spirit now living it out in our lives this to me is to be just frank with you guys is a wonderful verse I'd like to quote when I'm feeling very tempted and I find that spiritually strengthening to just quote I've been crucified with Christ there's no longer I who live but Christ lives in me and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me and I just remind myself of this truth and I find it strengthened okay here's the fourth point what does it mean to take up my cross identification forgiven by grace not loss and goodbye to the godless life and lifestyle and finally for you may actually die and this was a real thing and has been real thing for lots of Christians and I don't think all Christians need to go be martyred but I think it's healthy as Christians if you care so much about the eternal life that you have in Christ that you understand that martyrdom isn't the worst thing that can happen to you it really isn't the apostles most if not all of them seem to have died as martyrs countless believers throughout time have died as martyrs and our attitude needs to be as Christians that we're just unstoppable that we're not arrogant just unstoppable but you can't stop me from preaching the gospel like how do you stop people that are willing to die for their beliefs not willing to kill that's Islam right we're not willing to kill for abilities to die willing to suffer and die for our beliefs and you can't stop us that that is the people that we need to be in the book of Acts we see this in Acts chapter four they're the Apostles are threatened they're like we're gonna beat you or gonna put you in prison with all sorts of things to you and they were spawned by praying God give us courage give us courage so that we can just go and preach it because they realize what they really need is courage right they're not they don't see themselves as we're such upstanding amazing committed Christians that we don't even need to pray for courage right we're just like all we're gonna just we're gonna do what we're gonna do we don't care about your threats instead they're like Lord look on their threats and give us courage we need that we need that I'm not saying that Christians can't be fearful they just have to be unstoppable I'm not saying you can't be terrified sometimes you just you have to be unstoppable it's it's a it's a different thing then in act 5 they get beaten they get beaten for their for their preaching of the gospel the RFU room in beaten as an adult taken aside and just beaten down just physically beat up just because you were appreciating the gospel or something but I love their response in verse 41 of Acts 5 it says so they went on their way from the presence of the council rejoicing that they had been considered worthy to suffer shame for his name they had such an eternal mindset on things that they saw the suffering for the gospel as something that they were they were blessed to be able to take part of why because they had looked to Jesus who had suffered so much for us so the idea that they could somehow suffer for him was considered an honor God give us this attitude the way around where we don't seek out suffering they never sought out suffering for the Lord like I'm gonna make myself suffer so I can honor Jesus like this is never the idea but rather I will not stop and if I'm persecuted or attacked I will rejoice in the Lord that I'm even counted worthy to suffer for his name has a beautiful attitude so Jesus he's my inspiration for all of those things so we can be unstoppable there are some obviously I mentioned this briefly there are some who say that this is a fabrication this whole story about Jesus is saying you know I'm gonna die and rise again it's just fabricated and some of them they they don't I don't know if they have evidence that they were presented for this I haven't heard any evidence ever at least not that I found yet and respond to it if I had but where they try to say that the Gospels wrote in this stuff about Jesus predicting his death and resurrection because in real history what happened as Jesus was gonna be the Messiah then he died and then they were like boy we better figure out some way to keep this thing going now this is it seems to me this is really reaching right this is like a just so story it's like it just fits for wanting to not believe that Jesus would perhaps have risen again or that he could predict that it was going to happen the only thing I've heard for this is storytelling I've never heard any evidence to support that it's true against this though let me give you like I think I have six points against it like a real quick one this would require a conspiracy amongst a large number of authors that we have from the first century every New Testaments or every 1st century source we have excuse me not just the new test man every 1st century source we have about Jesus tells the same story about his death and resurrection that it actually happened not just that it was proclaimed or order that it was just proclaimed for those who were the unbelievers they at least admit that this thing was proclaimed right away so it would be a conspiracy among multiple authors with nobody saying otherwise these kinds of conspiracies don't generally happen in real life ok we don't really have like the these actual giant conspiracies happening conspiracies last for like 10 minutes especially when they're big because someone always talks it's just what happens another point is that Mark is right in the nitty-gritty details about ancient Palestine the the geography the the layout of things the nature of the Sea of Galilee he's right about the names of people in his gospel relating to the names that people had at that time in that place which is remarkable considering that most people think mark was written from Rome or they wouldn't even know what Palestinian names were because the Jews in Rome had different names than the Jews in Palestine and so it's in other words somehow mark and the other Gospels they got these things right all the little nitty-gritty details right but they totally fabricated a bunch of stuff in the middle of it so this this again this is not only conspiracy but what I'm pointing out is the difficulty of doing this do you know how many people in the first century made fake histories with the little nitty-gritty details right with the major stuff false none we have zero examples of this sort of work because they just weren't being produced they weren't like like nowadays we go based on our true story or something like that like this sort of thing just wasn't going on there's also no alternate version of Jesus there's a third reason there's no alternate version of Jesus the only alternate versions of Jesus come in the second century third century years down the road after Christianity is gaining speed and it's clearly written by non disciples of Christ who are trying to hijack who Jesus is the first century accounts give us a consistent encounter who Jesus is not only this but the earliest account of Christ's death and resurrection is in first Corinthians 15 it did it's dated to probably within seven years of the cross within seven years and already we're getting that the disciples and the Apostles were eyewitnesses of not only his death but also his resurrection meaning that it had to be a conspiracy that involved the original followers of Jesus that was carried out with great care amongst later authors of various texts carefully working to make sure they got the little mini greeting details right and then they incorporated phrases of that seemed authentically Jesus like a son of man phrase that scholars think Jesus probably really said that if it's his son of man well he says the son of man must be killed you know and they're doing all these little careful things have you guys heard the term ad hoc it means you probably are making that up because you just you want your conclusion so you're making stuff up in addition to these things we have the Apostles willingness to die their willingness to die in particular guys like Paul Peter James we have a really good as storico confirmation that they were martyred for their faith and that they were all along as they preached the gospel they were willing to suffer for Christ's name people who don't knowingly lie and then suffer so many things for those lies if all they have to do is confess that it was a lie then they can go their merry way they just don't generally do that we also have Old Testament prophecy how do you make that up how do you make up Isaiah 53 Psalm 22 I and what I'm saying is we have all these different arrows that it it makes the most sense if Jesus really just did tell him hey look you don't really know who the Messiah is I'm trying to tell you I'm gonna die and rise again like keep things under wraps so you don't confuse people until until it makes more sense after his death and resurrection he Commission's the gospel to go out the Apostles to go out and tell him everything but first they have to understand it so then you have verse 35 it says for whoever wishes to save his life will lose it but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel's will save it clearly this is a choice between a worldly life and eternal life lose your life save it you want to gain your life you lose it it's about this life in this world versus eternal life Jesus makes this kind of comparison several times in the Gospels we talks about this life versus eternal life it's not this life versus heaven it's this life versus eternal life which does begin now right I begin living that eternal life right now so it's not like I have no benefits in Christ until I die it's just that I'm living in a to put it maybe a little awkwardly I'm living in a different plane I'm living for a different Kingdom that would be maybe a more biblical phrase I'm living for a different kingdom not of this world but for the kingdom of Christ in verse 36 it says what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul for what will a man give in exchange for his soul so it's about your eternal soul that's the idea that the the dilemma that Jesus puts at your feet is hey pick up your cross and follow me I'll be I'll bring your forgiveness I'll be your sacrifice I will wash you clean of your sins but you're gonna have to andin the godless life and you're gonna have to serve in the kingdom as part of this kingdom and not part of this world so it's not just an intellectual belief but an actual commitment of faith so there's a cost there's a cost but Jesus is saying that cost is about your eternal soul when you say no to the gospel you're saying yes to a temporary temporary worldly life and no to eternal life and this is Jesus's wage or some of you guys were to Pascal's wager but in Pascal's wager he's like on balance you know you know if you're if you're if you're undecided on the evidence you got to say that the the the risk/reward analysis of the gospel the only reasonable thing is to give your life to Christ or to at least put yourself in positions where you're you're you're making it more likely for you to find God like so you're praying you're going to church and you're spending time reading the word and things like that that's Pascal's wager but this is Jesus's wager his wager is basically whatever you lose for Christ is like nothing compared to what you gain for Christ that's the wager gives us courage Jesus went to the cross because he knew what he would gain right our salvation I can suffer for his name I can put off things of this world I can set aside sin I can deny myself even because I know what I gain and it's more than worth it in fact it's not even worthy to be compared we got to remind ourselves of this because sometimes we go through this life like this is all there is and really we're being what jesus warned us against in matthew 6 he goes don't be like the gentiles don't be like that right seek first God's kingdom in his righteousness verse 38 he says for whoever is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation the son of man will also be ashamed of him when he comes in the glory of his father and with the Holy Angels Jesus has a second coming this is actually pretty cool because Jesus himself is declaring yes there's a second coming I'm coming back and I'm coming not lowly right I'm coming in the glory in the glory of God the glory of his father with the Holy Angels so Jesus not only in mark 8 predicts his death and resurrection he predicts his second coming this would have been a puzzle to them but ultimately this is the whole gospel to Christians and it's the khattala G of the second coming of Christ that we're looking forward to and yeah I think that this this stuff is um Jesus not only offers us here let's not miss this not only offers us this incredible forgiveness in salvation he also says and here's the consequences of rejecting it he doesn't hold back on that right and he's like look you'd be ashamed of me I'll be ashamed of you because I'm coming back and that Kingdom is eternal so you can have this world or you can have the eternal Kingdom context might give us a little bit more on how to understand this last week I mentioned how like the blind man that jesus healed how this may be like a picture of the disciples not understanding the gospel or the message of Christ or what Jesus is doing they don't understand what he's doing and they slowly understand so the so the story goes like this right the blind man he was healed partially he he was blind in the Jesus he he partially heals the man and the man says I see I see men like trees walking around so it was like fuzzy he couldn't quite tell what he was looking at and then he puts his hands on him again and then the man can see clearly but the words used in the healing of the man and then the words used for in Jesus with the disciples right before this happens are really similar right he tells them like hey I'm showing you these things but you don't get it you have eyes but you don't see and let me read you the passage right this is what we would call the marking sandwich where mark puts a story in the context of other events so that and maybe Jesus is I want to really put it there is so that we will catch this theological significance of it so Jesus says this to the disciples before he heals the blind man he says and Jesus this is Mark 817 Jesus aware of this said to them why do you discuss the fact that you have no bread do you not do you not yet see or understand do you have a hardened heart having eyes do you not see and having years do you not hear and do you not remember so the disciples have blind so to speak with understanding what Jesus is doing they see what he's doing but they don't get it mark 823 a few verses down it says taking the blind man by the hand he brought him out of the village and after spinning on his eyes and laying his hands on him he said to him do you see anything and he looked up and said ice meant for I see them like trees walking around then again he let he laid his hands on his eyes and he looked intently and was restored and began to see everything clearly this is like the one time Jesus partially heals somebody and then fully heals them and here's the disciples vision Jesus is the Messiah we see no you can't die that can't possibly have that can't possibly be the thing because they don't see they see they see the clarity of the Messiah the way the guy saw men like trees walking around they like to misunderstand what exactly Jesus is about so I think that this is a is intentional I think it's intentional and the revealing that Jesus does in mark 8 is not over mark is is like the book of Mark as we go through it just continues to like peel off the layers of like Jesus's true mission is true purpose we're gonna get more of this not only of his mission going to the cross but of his identity we'll get more of that as we go so this is a fun part to be in in mark as it started it earlier in mark we're going through and we're seeing Jesus does a miracle and when you pull Old Testament texts that relate to that miracle you go oh he's like God with them you know but it's like subtle right you got it you got to know the Old Testament now it's becoming more open and more in you're in front of your face and it's like ramping up so to speak so it's really neat I'm excited I love I love going through this stuff I hope it's a blessing to you guys and remember Lord we thank you for your holy word Jesus we just confess you are the Christ the Son of the Living God you are the one who suffered was rejected died for our sins and rose again rose again for our justification we trust in you completely for the forgiveness of our sins and for our salvation we look no further than the cross of Christ for the complete salvation that we need we um we want to take up our cross die to ourselves and live out this salvation that you've provided to walk more godly more holy and we pray more boldly not not with arrogance allure but with great boldness about the truth of Christ in this world that needs to hear it so badly father we pray that you'd empower us that you give us boldness and courage show us more more how to walk in the spirit so that we would glorify your name Jesus and we live the spiritual life in Jesus name Amen

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