by Mike Winger
We can easily read through this passage without having a clue as to how much deep and thoughtful material it contains. We learn stuff about the relationship between Jesus, Moses and Elijah, the difference between the first and second coming, why Peter wanted to build tabernacles for them, how Jesus' glory shows He is greater than Moses and much more. On a personal note, I have been thoroughly enjoying this methodical study through the Gospel of Mark and I'm grateful that you can join me as we mine the depths of scripture for it's treasures! Here's the whole Mark series playlist covering both theology and apologetics in Mark. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ3iRMLYFlHuGenHwUdeiQ5M-uj5XW4sF If you love this ministry and want to help support my continued creation of free content helping people learn to think biblically about everything, click here. https://biblethinker.org/index.php/donate
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this is the Transfiguration that's what we call it because of one of the words used in the text here it's where Jesus is transfigured metamorphosized he's changed somehow before the guys before the disciples Peter James and John and his glories revealed and I think that this is a monumental like epic pillar moment in the Gospel of Mark that reveals to us among other things the difference between Jesus's first and second coming I think that's like an interesting nuance that we should we just want to observe while we're going through the text today we're doing this is a verse by verse study of the gospel mark chapter 9 verses 1 through 13 this is part 30 in our methodical long-winded series through the Gospel of Mark this is our 30th episode and we've just made it past the halfway point so I think we're doing really good really we're right on pace but we're covering you know theology apologetics and we'll be doing that today we'll be covering theology and apologetics both in different ways as we're going through this section but first let's make sure that we are getting the full context and just the text itself so it's gonna read mark chapter 9 verses 1 through 13 and we'll look at this he says and Jesus was saying to them truly I say to you there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power six days later Jesus took Peter took with him Peter James and John and brought them up on a high mountain by themselves and he was transfigured before them and his garments became rating it an exceedingly white as no launderer on earth can whiten them Elijah appeared to them along with Moses and they were talking with Jesus Peter said to Jesus rabbi it is good for us to be here let us make three Tabernacles one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah for he did not know what to answer for they became terrified then a cloud formed overshadowed them and a voice came out of the cloud this is my beloved son listen to him all at once they looked around and saw no one with them any more except Jesus alone as they were coming down from the mountain he gave them orders not to relate to any what they'd seen until the Son of Man rose from the dead they seized upon that statement discussing with one another what rising from the dead meant they asked him saying why is it that the scribes say that Elijah must come first and he said to them Elijah does come first and restore all things and yet how is it written of the Son of Man that he will suffer many things and be treated with contempt but I say to you that Elijah has indeed come and they did to him whatever they wished just as it is written of him now this is one of those sections in the Gospels where I think if you just casually read it especially not having the Jewish background you don't live in the first century you know you read it and there's probably a ton of stuff you just totally miss you know you're like wow Jesus is amazing cool but you don't realize there's like this whole flow of thought there's these like really important elements that are going on here and there's a lot to unpack and so we're gonna unpack it now let's let's start with the part that I think trips people up and deals with apologetics we'll start there as in verse 1 and Jesus was saying to them truly I say to you there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power so this is taken by some who I think miss miss apply the verse it's taken by some to mean that Jesus was saying that his coming was gonna happen within the lifetime of the people that were standing there or at least some of them some of them wouldn't die of old age before Jesus came back so that puts like a 50 60 year you know time limit on the return of Christ which means Jesus had to come in the first century that would be the way that they take it if if that's the case we have one of two possible conclusions from that either you have something called preterism where there's different versions of preterism but there's one version of preterism which teaches that Jesus already came in the first century his second coming already happened you might have missed it but it already happened right like we didn't most of us don't notice it but it already happened and it happened when the temple was destroyed in 70 AD not all preterists to my knowledge not all of them hold this view but a certain segment of them do I'm so pretty R ISM it's this it's an eschatological view you get the point right that's one view uh Jesus did say he was gonna come back and guess but he came back I think that that's incorrect I don't think we have like good historical reasons to think that Jesus is second coming has already happened but there are well-intentioned people who believe in God that really think that's what happened the other alternative is what I often hear from skeptics Jesus was supposed to come back in the first century he didn't there you go fail prophecy Jesus was a failed prophet he said he was coming back and he didn't and they expected him to and he didn't I think that both of these are incorrect and I think that they're incorrect because of the context that I just read to you right we do read in verse 1 Jesus does say some are standing there with him right at the moment who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it's come with power how do I see that this has already taken place well it takes place in the next verse verse 2 it says six days later Jesus took with him Peter James and John there's some of those who were alive today who were standing there with him and he brought them up on a high mountain by themselves and he was transfigured before them they see Jesus in his glory they see Moses they see Elijah they see the kingdom of God coming with power but only some of them it's fulfilled right there on the spot now you might as I first was giving this answer to this question because someone challenged me this so I opened the gospel and I'm reading I'm like what does context help me understand what Jesus means here in this verse my thought my next thought was okay but what about the parallel passages what about the other places where the same statement from Jesus happens because it happens three times in three Gospels Matthew Mark and Luke all have Jesus saying there's some of you alive right now who will not die until you see the kingdom of God come in power well it turns out in all three Gospels it's the same Jesus says it and the very next thing that happens is the Transfiguration let me read to you Matthew 16 verse 28 through 17 - it says truly I say to you there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom six days later there's this again six days later Jesus took with him Peter and James and John his brother and led him up on a high mountain by themselves and he was transfigured before them and his face shone like the Sun in his became as white as light so we have again immediately after the statement some of you will not die he then has those guys experience that in Luke 9 verses 27 through 29 here's the third time it happens third passages recorded in it says but I say to you truthfully there are some of those standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God some eight days after these sayings he took Peter and James and John and went up on the mountain to pray and while he was praying the appearance of his face became different and his clothing became white and gleaming so my point here is that the Transfiguration of Jesus and seeing Moses and Elijah with him this is these seeing the kingdom of God come in power now there's more nuance to this which is why you're like wait a minute weren't they expecting it to be like this worldwide thing yes but that's where we get into the idea that Jesus is showing us the difference between his first and second coming in this passage so we'll come back to that in a minute but first let me handle another apologetic issue which is that if some of you might have noticed it right two of the Gospels said it's six days later Peter James and John they go to the mountain one of the gospel says some eight days later right that's Luke Luke says some eight days later and I like the I like I'm like smiling while I'm talking about a supposed contradiction because I've already studied it and I have an answer for you and that excites me to be able to bring answers to these troubles that some people will struggle with so in Matthew and Mark it's very specific six days later it's just six days later it's it's not a generic number of time there's no qualifier it's just six days later Luke however gives a more generic term it says some eight days later you notice how it said some well that is actually a Greek word Jose that means about you're like Jose that's me no no he's not even here tonight actually what do you do but but no that's the word Jose and it's it's a word that means about or approximately so in Luke's own statement he's like approximately about eight days later about eight days later so it's a generic term now I want to give you more support for this this word Jose is used by Luke more than the other authors and more than any author in the New Testament he just likes approximating things it's like what he does he's like about it's like when you say like like like like like like try once you start thinking about saying like it's like you say it more because you like can't stop because it's like coming out all the time anyhow Matthew uses the word three times mark only uses it once in John we don't find it at all in the Gospel of Luke we find it nine times we find it nine times in the entire New Testament outside of Luke acts we see it a total of six times so it's not super common of a word but in Luke and acts which are the books that Luke wrote we see a total of seventeen times Luke likes to say approximately it's just like his thing he just likes to say this in Luke 3:23 he says Jesus was Jose thirty years of age or he was about thirty years of age he doesn't mean exactly thirty he means about in Luke 914 he says there were about five thousand men those who were fed the feeding of the five thousand there were approximately five thousand men here he says some or approximately about eight days later so anyways there's no there's no actual conflict there now there's another possible thing that's going on here which is that Luke might be rounding up because he's considering the day Jesus made the statement and the day that it happened and it's possible that Mark and Matthew are only counting the days between so there's another answer there that could explain both you know he says it you know in the middle of the day one day it happens in the middle of the day on the last day do we count those days or not when we say six days later this is this was us in staff meetings at hosanna this is like this is we've been half our staff meeting bein like wait do you mean two days after or two days like 48 hours after or I mean we would spend copious amounts of time discussing what we meant by the next Wednesday is that this coming Wednesday or the in the next Wednesday that happens or is it the next Wednesday like next week's Wednesday like which Wednesday are we talking about so anyway I can understand how these sorts of things come up now it's interesting though about the time the time indicators in the mark Matthew and Luke passages is that every one of them after Jesus makes the stage and they're all careful to tell you it's some specific amount of time and then they go up on the mountain what is this what does this do these time indicators it ties the two things together now mark in particular rarely does this he just says like then this happened he doesn't generally say six days later three days later the next day this happened that's sort of a rare thing in the Gospel of Mark the point here is Mark is connecting the Transfiguration to the statement of Jesus that some will not die until they have seen the kingdom I think we have three Gospels we have time indicators we have good reason to think that the Transfiguration is the fulfillment of Jesus's statement earlier in mark 9:1 deliberate connection now there's more evidence to support this as well because why not so first Peter talks about this soubise second Peter 2nd Peter 1 verses 16 through 18 Peter seems to be talking about the Transfiguration on the Mount so it's Peters later commentary on what he saw on the mountain that's kind of cool it says we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ but were eyewitnesses of his majesty not just of him but of his majesty for when the when he received honor and glory from the father such an utterance as this was made to him by the majestic glory this is my beloved son with whom I'm well pleased and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with him on the holy mountain so Peters saying we were eyewitnesses of this moment where Jesus's glory was revealed he wasn't just veiled with this flesh like his glory hidden from us it was revealed to us we heard God Himself speak and so he's a he's now using their multiple eyewitness testimony of the glory of Christ in his letter as he writes to them this was definitely the Transfiguration we can see from 2nd Peter 1:18 it was when we were with him on the holy mountain and how it functions in Peters argument through his book is real interesting in 2nd Peter he's basically saying Jesus is going to come it's guaranteed because of the things that have already happened but he's coming at his own timing don't stress it like he's going to come whatever he wants this is where he says like for the day is as a thousand years with the Lord which I don't think is a math problem for us to figure out I think the point is God's timing is God's timing it's not on your schedule but he's for sure coming and that's the point how interesting that in a book where he's saying don't worry about the timing it's just for sure he's coming he relates this to the passage where Jesus talks about some will not die till they've seen the kingdom come in other words here's what I'm here's what I'm getting at Peter sees the the revelation of Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration he sees this as a sample of Jesus's second coming he sees this as like a guarantee see it's really gonna happen here to preview now I can wait on the Lord until it's really fulfilled because there is a difference between Jesus's first and second coming I hope you are seeing how this theology comes together that's kind of the point that's what we're giving at notice also if you're there in 2nd Peter he mentions that what they saw was the power and coming there made known the power and coming of the Lord Jesus Christ and it's interesting in mark 9:1 Jesus says that those who will see what they'll see on the Mount is the power the kingdom of God after it has come with power so he's talking about the coming of Christ with power and the kingdom of God having come with power the two passages are connected that's the idea so some would say well this is confusing this is confusing why have it happened in such a confusing way why have Jesus say something that's that seems like it would stumble some of the audience some of you guys are gonna see the kingdom of God and then a very select few see three people and they're told don't tell anyone boy that's confusing and I think it's to draw out the fact of confusion about Jesus's first and second coming I think that that might be the goal here it's exactly the difference between the first and second coming that mark is focused on in mark 8 and mark 9 that Jesus is communicating to us when you understand the difference you understand Jesus and his purpose in mark 8 we see the cross right the Son of man has to be rejected will be will be killed and will rise again he's going to die for us this unexpected reality then in mark 9 we have this picture of what his second coming will look like it's like a sample but only some of those standing there will witness it notice that some of you will not die what's the implication about the rest of them you're not gonna see it you're gonna die before you see the kingdom of God come so I think this is this is to give us the difference between Jesus's first and second coming again this was the Jewish expectation that they were gonna happen at the same time that they were just there was only one really in a sense they had no room for the first coming they just expected the second and so what Christ is giving them is the explanation of the first coming all right here we are in verse 2 let's examine this Transfiguration a bit more soup we can learn from it six days later Jesus took with him Peter and James and John these are like the inner circle the three Peter James and there was there was there was like 70 disciples there was then there was just the twelve the twelve then there was three amongst the twelve Peter James and John they occasionally get pulled aside for special things special tasks special revelation that kind of thing and he brings them up it says on a high mountain by themselves and he was transfigured before them and his garments became radiant and exceedingly white as no launderer on earth can whiten them Elijah appeared to them along with Moses and they were talking with Jesus okay let's talk about the nature of Jesus's change what is going on with Jesus right here the word is transfigured it's it's it's well it's Metamorpho it's like the word we get metamorphosis from in our English although English words don't mean necessarily what the greek words mean and all that but that is the where we get it from the idea here though is that there's like an external transformation external change his appearance has changed before them and I think what's happening it seems clear is the deity of Christ is shining forth Jesus is more than a man more than a messenger he's more than Moses he's more than Elijah right it is it is his DD that's shining forth and the goal here is that there might be I witnesses of his majesty God wants to make sure Peter James and John they understand the glory that Christ has because up till now they've been wondering like who is this who calms the storm who is this who says he can forgive sins and it commands out massive amounts of demons who is this who is this and then now it's like they're getting something of an answer as they see the glory of Christ shine forth in a sense Jesus when he comes on the earth in human form he's like the high priest on the Day of Atonement in the Old Testament this high priest on the Day of Atonement was set aside all of his high priestly garments he normally looks glorious in fact the high priest hid the coloring and the and the the things that he was wearing he looked on the outside the way the temple looked on the inside glorious the same colorings the same kind of things on him as was in the temple so he looked like heaven on the outside and he would go in and he would seed heaven on the inside so to speak that as people see the kind of the ugly covering of the temple but on the Day of Atonement the high priest took off all his garments and he was just clad in plain old white clothing he looked so normal and it was there that he made offerings and sacrifices for the sin of the people and Jesus he comes setting aside his glory setting aside the the I mean what what he would look like fully revealed in his glory he comes in human form he comes setting that aside he does his work of atonement for us and then he takes up his glory afterwards well the Mount of Transfiguration is like a little glimpse into into who this person really is that's what the idea is here verse 3 it says his garments became a radiant and the idea of radiant there it means that they were shining so not reflecting light but their like creating their own light and exceedingly white as no launderer on the earth can whiten them is this about launderers what's the point about launderers right in different translations Handel is different well the ESV I think it says that it's like why do they need one could bleach them and the the idea is that it's just getting that point across I don't know if they used bleach back then or not but that's probably a fair translation I think so we understand it in our current language the point about launderers is this is you can't naturally get clothing to look like this that's the whole point so Jesus his clothing is supernaturally radiant its glory the thing that's making it shine is not bleach right its glory it's shining radiant no longer on earth can do this because it's a supernatural appearance of glory remember this point because we will come back to this a little bit later the next thing that happens is Moses and Elijah show up Moses and Elijah this is kind of a big deal this isn't like a normal thing like Moses lies to just show up long after long after the fact this doesn't really happen the return of these guys is the kingdom of God coming in power in a sense right Moses and Elijah show up I wonder what they were expecting at that moment I wonder if the disciples thought it's on right yes it's happening we've been waiting for this they thought this was probably gonna be a long-term thing in fact we'll see from Peter that he probably did think it was gonna be a long-term thing but they show up and then they talk with Jesus and I was wondering to myself I wonder what they talked about I wonder what they talked about what but if you could just listen in on the discussion well they did and they wrote about it Luke 9 31 it says who appeared in glory appearing in glory were speaking of his departure which he was about to accomplish in Jerusalem so they talked to Jesus about his death that's interesting I wonder if they were learning about it I wonder if he was telling them what he was going to do I wonder what the discussion was about I wonder if Moses and Elijah were like oh this is this was the plan because they had written about it but they didn't fully understand it they'd written they wrote as inspired but only God really knew how all the puzzle pieces would fit together so I wonder perhaps if they were learning about it but the focus of the conversation is his departure his death interesting that later Peter uses that same term departure to talk about his own death in second Peter Elijah and Moses both have interesting stories in the Old Testament they both almost saw God on a mountain in that interesting they both almost saw God on a mountain let's briefly look at that Exodus 33 is where we read about Moses how he almost saw God on a mountain in verse 18 X is 33 18 says then Moses said I pray you show me your glory he asks God to reveal his glory to him and he said I myself will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim the name of the Lord before you and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious and I will show compassion whom I will show compassion but he said you cannot see my face for no one can see me and live then the Lord said behold there is a place by me and you shall stand there on a row on the rock and it will come about while my glories passing by that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with my hand until I've passed by then I will take my hand away and you shall see my back but my face shall not be seen long story short he sees a partial revelation of God guys I'll show you myself but not like this full revelation of all that I am you can't do it you can't see it perhaps because it would kill him I mean that maybe the reality of it is that it would bring him into judgment there's other theological reasons though I think why that also happened but now in Matthew the parallel story of the Transfiguration it adds something it says in Matthew 17 - and he was transfigured before them and his face shone like the Sun and his garments became as white as light which means they were seeing his face Jesus is God with us and here on the mountain of Transfiguration Moses gets to see what he asked to see on the other mountain which was horrid or Sinai what he didn't get to see while receiving the law he did get to see in Christ that's pretty cool Elijah has a different experience but also on the same mountain as Moses in first Kings 19 he travels to the same Mount Sinai same location and there he is in first Kings chapter 19 there's a fire there's a wind there's all these things but God's not in them right and God speaks to him in a still small voice but he doesn't see the Lord it's not a visual it's just the auditory experience on that same location but now both Moses and Elijah have finally seen Jesus and his face and I think that there's a picture here in which we see through the whole Old Testament that we're getting teachings about Christ but the full revelation of God is in Christ it's going to be in Christ it's gonna be when we see him and we see him not there on a the mountain where the law is brought but over here as there as he's heading more towards the cross now both Moses and Elijah also have something else come and they have unique endings unique endings Elijah it seems didn't even die he was just taken away he was just taken away well Moses he did die but we have this interesting phrase in Deuteronomy that says that God buried him God like it wasn't humans God did it right and then we have we have in the New Testament speaking about there being some dispute some angelic dispute over the body of Moses so this is interesting this is very interesting well here we have two guys who had like these sort of strange endings and then here they are come back with Jesus on the mountain there's more about Allah Elijah and Moses Elijah and Moses may well represent the law and the prophets with Moses this is easy Moses represents the law I mean this is what the Jews would call the law they would call it Moses right is written in Moses Moses said and their word and they don't really mean to identify it as it being Moses on his authority but the law was so connected to Moses as he brought it to them that they just called it Moses order the law of Moses that's right I'm saying Moses so many times it's certainly not me I mean anything to my head right now right Moses supposes his toeses are roses but um anyway so Moses is is definitely connected to the law we see that for sure Elijah he's not a law guy he's a prophet and Elijah may represent all of the prophets that's entirely possible Elijah was the Prophet who was expected to come back at the end time right Jesus while he connected John the Baptist to the Ministry of Elijah he said that all the prophets prophesied until John the Baptist like there was a culmination and he identifies John the Baptist as coming in the spirit of Elijah so the culmination of prophecy is somehow represented by Elijah as well so what we see with Elijah and Moses is the law in the prophets the law and the prophets they're standing talking with Jesus but Jesus is better than both that is a main point in this in this Transfiguration you might miss reading through casually Jesus is better than Elijah and Moses he's he outshines them literally this in this passage Moses in fact if we read about Moses Moses shined - did you remember this he he had a shining face as well in the Old Testament in Exodus 34 we read about it but notice notice that as we read he didn't shine like his own shine it wasn't coming from him it was a reflection of something else here is Exodus 34 verse 29 and it came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses hand as he was coming down from the mountain that Moses did not know that the skin on his face shone because he of his speaking with him or his speaking with God so when Aaron all the sons of Israel saw Moses beheld the skin of his behold the skin of his face shone and they were afraid to come near him and they were scared it's understandable they thought he was radioactive no they they just they know that you can't come near God and all of his glory in here he comes in he's shining and we're scared we don't know what to do then verse 31 then Moses called to them and Aaron and all the rulers in the congregation returned to him and Moses spoke to them afterward all the sons of Israel came near and he commanded them to do everything that the Lord had spoken to him on Mount Sinai when Moses had finished speaking with them he put a veil over his face Paul uses this picture in the New Testament and he says you know notice Moses spoke to them I called them near he's like don't worry come here they come back near he gives him he gives him the Word of God but then he puts the veil over his face and Paul says this was so they wouldn't see that it was fading that the shining of his face was fading away he spoke to them while shining but it was it was just a reflection having been in God's presence this is different with Jesus though now Paul just so you know and most super familiar with it but Paul he uses us to say just as the law has a fading glory yet Jesus has a constant glory well what we see is this Transfiguration passage is connected to this because just as Moses he reflected God's glory Jesus produces his own that's that word radiance his face was radiant it was shining forth he was not reflecting anything Jesus didn't go and talk with God for a while and then come back with a glowing face he's transfigured before them and out of himself is shining in glory matthew 17:2 said his face shone like the Sun so in that Jesus is better than both so the law and the prophets Moses and Elijah they point to Christ they lead to Christ but Jesus outshines them Jesus is better than them Jesus is more important than them this is deep theological stuff to a first century Jew we do well to recognize how like pivotal it is even though we've become very used to the idea that everything kind of points to Christ but it's nice to just freshly appreciate it verse 5 here in mark 9 here's Peters response to all this Peter said to Jesus rabbi it is good for us to be here let us make three Tabernacles one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah for he didn't know what to answer for they became terrified I just I just like how Peter does he was I don't know so he's trying to think like how do I help what can I do you know and so he's like I'll make some Tabernacles one for each of you now Luke adds one more thing to this that gives us a little insight in Luke 9 33 it tells us what was going on when Peter said this in Luke 9 33 it says and as these were leaving him that's Moses and Elijah they were leaving they were visibly departing from Jesus Peter said to Jesus master it's good for us to be here let us make three Tabernacles one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah not realizing what he was speaking I think the context of Luke gives us more insight into Peter Peter sees Moses and Elijah they start to depart from Christ like they're leaving and he's like no don't leave I want you to stay so he's gonna build them Tabernacles so that they have somewhere to stay he wants to make this temporary visit permanent because Peter like the Jews of his time sees only one coming not the Messiah dying for our sins but him coming in glory to take over the world that's rice there's so much about the first and second coming in mark 8 and Mark 9 and it's like this pivotal moment in the Gospel of Mark where we see the difference between Jesus's first and second coming he only saw one coming he wanted them to stick around but they're leaving why are they leaving because it's not time because the time is for Christ to die to be rejected that's what they even talked about how he'll be rejected how he'll die for us Jesus before he comes to take over the world he comes to save the world he comes to die for my sin to die for your sin to pay the price for all the wicked things we've done this is kind of important or else you would come and establish a kingdom with no citizens because none of us are worthy of God's kingdom we need to be washed cleansed by the blood of the Lamb so their job Moses and Elijah their job is to deliver you to Jesus is to point you to Jesus is to say look it's all about Jesus it's all getting you and your eyes on Christ so that you could see he is the one who outshines all of us see how it shines us all later the apostles did this without Moses and Elijah present but they did this in the book of Acts they constantly preached that Jesus was the Messiah and they used the law and the prophets to do it Moses and Elijah right they use the law in the prophets to point people to Christ but the idea is that you're not okay now come under obedience to the Old Testament law it's like no no see how it's fulfilled in Jesus Christ that's the message so the the big picture we get here I think is that the time for the kingdom of Christ has not yet come this is a sample to teach us some lessons about Jesus in his kingdom that only a select few Peter James and John were able to witness to teach them lessons it wasn't about arriving the kingdom it was about teaching them lessons about the kingdom then they leave and Jesus is also about to depart isn't he he's also going to leave which gives us the necessity of the second coming we need the second coming if for no other reason than that Jesus left is to come back and establish this kingdom mark 831 made this clear in chapter 8 of Mark the whole chapter made it clear but it says he began to teach them that the Son of man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed and after three days rise again so that the the death and resurrection is central and the mission of Christ mark 838 he says for whoever is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation the son of man also will be ashamed of him when he comes in the glory of his father and with the Holy Angels what words would they be ashamed of the words of his crucifixion resurrection the idea that it's not just about coming to rain it's about dying for our sins so I think what we're getting in Mark 8 & 9 is the gospel of the sacrifice of Christ that context is being slammed into the idea of the Messiah the first and second coming confusion is being exposed and being dealt with in mark 8 and 9 so that we can have a proper understanding of Jesus now there's plenty of people today who think that this is all later inventions of guys like Paul and that's why a careful study of mark is important so that you see in the Gospels not just mark but across the Gospels we see it's the same message it's the same thing carried in different ways alright verse 7 verse 7 it says then a cloud formed overshadowing them and a voice came out of the cloud this is my beloved son listen to him this is my beloved son now in context God never said that about Moses he never said that about Elijah now he did say listen you better listen to Moses right but he didn't call him this his beloved son he's saying that Jesus stands head and shoulders above the others he is the ultimate Messenger of God because he's God Himself come to speak to us he says listen to him that's that's it this is the whole message right see this guy he's my son you better listen and I think that when we encounter the words of Jesus we encounter something that raises our accountability really high like we better listen to the words of Jesus we better you know listen to the things that Christ himself has said because it's God himself it's God himself and how we treat what Jesus says is how we're reacting responding to God in acts 3:20 2 Peter takes a hold of this idea and he connects it to the Old Testament in the Old Testament Deuteronomy there was gonna be a prophet like Moses who would rise up and we've talked about this I think not too long ago and this in this service so I won't get into the details but this prophet like Moses is Jesus and were to listen to him the same thing that God said about Jesus I was on the Mount of Transfiguration so acts 322 uses that phrase as well listen to him it says Moses said the Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brethren to him you shall give heed to everything he says to you this is the whole messages you better listen to Jesus the idea is this is that not only was this prophet get this is kind of cool not only was the prophet going to show up and prophet like Moses show up and do something amazing he was gonna show up with new information and you better believe it and so Jesus comes and he's bringing the full the fullness of the gospel in his life and you better receive it you better believe it it's not enough for you to sit on what you've known in the past you need to respond to Jesus his words are Scripture in other words verse 8 as we read on he says all at once they looked around and saw no one with them anymore except Jesus alone so this to me seems as though the this whole team is choreographed because we find out in Luke that Moses and Elijah start departing from Jesus like they're taking their time like they're starting to leave and Peters like hey wait no no will make Tabernacles and the cloud comes God speaks and they're gone like that meaning that there wasn't like this traveling that had to happen it was it was choreographed to teach us things God's drawing these events out to teach us lessons so no one's with them except Jesus here's the conclusion Jesus is glorious listen to him Jesus is the ultimate message from God listen to him that's the bottom line this is a peek at Jesus's glory greater than anyone who's ever come before or since greater than Moses greater than Elijah I I want you to imagine they're awed they're like looking at Jesus on the mountain shining in his glory and they're thinking this is the same Jesus that was asleep in the boat this is the same Jesus that I just I see so often you know that like I know his facial expressions that like I know you know when he has bedhead which there was no cure for in the first century everyone had bedhead at all times pretty sure is that true don't google it there's the the thing is that they would see Jesus lowly and meek and suddenly they have this revelation of his glory and they're like and I wonder what it was like for them after that I wonder how they felt the intimacy and the love and the friendship of Christ along with his incredible intense glory and to see both of these things a good lesson for us in this too that we don't forget the glory of Christ we don't ever think that Jesus is mundane it's always been like a little pet peeve of mine I don't mean this you know pet peeves are my own issue right that a pet peeve is when you have an issue and you believe everyone else for it that's kinda what a pet peeve is so I don't mean to blame any waivers but it's always been something that gets to me is when I hear people say Jesus as though his name has no value or they talk about Jesus as though in their head the version of Jesus is just the the felt board you know or like the cartoon that's Jesus and now and I think we needed the revelation that Jesus is is that Mount of Transfiguration in his glory coming in his kingdom with the power of God with all accountability for listening to the words he says Jesus is God with us and that should cause us a sense of healthy fear a sense of honor a sense of awe and praise it should it should cause our worship to just explode but this moment is a handoff they see no one around them but Jesus so Moses and Elijah you don't need them you need Jesus right now now you still need Moses wiser to point you to Christ but you need to listen to Christ verse 9 as they were coming down from the mountain he gave them orders not to relate to anyone what they'd seen until the Son of Man rose from the dead can you imagine having that experience and then Jesus is like don't tell anyone that would be a little tough I can't tell anyone so when the Pharisees come and they're like all proved as who you are I can't be like dude trust me he's legit like stop lurking him you know it's not gonna go good for you listen to him he's this he's the son of God you know I don't say anything don't tell anyone knowing what it meant no one would it revealed about Christ but not knowing not being able to tell anyone I do think the disciples spent a good amount of time being confused I think that was on purpose I think it's sometimes bouts of long term of confusion can sometimes be the only thing that finally gets us to clarity but they had to just kind of hang on to it till one day it all clicked and they saw there were two comings of Christ there was him coming to die for us to establish his kingdom Hebrews 9:28 talks about the two comings of Christ it says so Christ also having been offered once to bear the sins of many his first coming will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin to those who eat early await him he's going to come and establish his kingdom then in verse 10 it says they seized upon that statement what statement he says until the Son of Man rose rises from the dead you can tell people what you saw of it after I rise from the dead so they seized upon that statement discussing with one another what rising from the dead meant what could rising from the dead possibly mean sometimes we struggle to understand the obvious because we have preconceived notions that the obvious isn't true right like that the simple plain literal meaning of rising from the dead wouldn't couldn't be true he's not gonna really guy like this has to be a metaphor it's gotta be another parable I think that this is a growing issue in our modern times and that there are I mean there's times where the Bible speaks symbolically there's times where it speaks literally but there are also times where people don't like what it says literally and so they want to turn it into some sort of vague symbolism so let's see Bishop Spong have you guys heard of him he says that when the Bible says that Jesus rose from the dead that the resurrection of Jesus is a metaphor he would've been with the disciples here what does he really mean rises from the dead it's and it's a metaphor now spawn is quick to get irritated at people who say that metaphor means it's less than if it really happened physically metaphor is more metaphor is even greater than a real physical resurrection to me this is nonsense I'm like hey guess what you know your mom got in a car accident but she's okay metaphorically I can have her really be okay no matter if Oracle's even better than her being okay really physically like this is this is nonsense to most of us but it's like a weird rescue device for the fact that his view is vacant of the truth of Christ it misses out on the resurrection so what we need to do is let the real death and real physical resurrection of Jesus be the thing that we really believe this is this is Christian truth it doesn't need to be turned into a metaphor resist the temptation to reinvent Christianity to fit people's expectations verse 11 says they asked him saying why is it that the scribes say that Elijah must come first and the question I have as I read verse 11 is why are they asking this now of all things you know they're puzzling what does he mean rise from the dead and the next question why does Elijah come first in fact why did the scribes say Elijah will come first so this could potentially be that they're trying to counter Jesus who says that he's gonna die and rise and they're like but wait in the prophecy Elijah comes and he restores all things if Elijah's gonna restore all things then you're not gonna be rejected because everyone will be ready for you because I'll I just gonna prepare the way for the Lord so maybe this is a way of saying see here's a way you don't have to die like the kingdom is gonna come right now one coming not two that might be a reason or perhaps they're wondering if Elijah is coming is an accurate expectation given that Elijah just showed up and then took off again is Elijah coming or like well how does this work so they're there they're confused Jesus answers verse 12 and he said to them Elijah does come first and restore all things now the tents there is interesting he it sounds like it's something that's going to happen in the future right Elijah does come first and restore all things and yet how is it written of the Son of Man that he will suffer many things and be treated with contempt the confusion is like yes Elijah is gonna restore all things but guess what the sediments still gonna be suffer gonna suffer and be treated with contempt don't think Elijah Trump's the need for the death of Christ that's what he seems to be saying here but I say to you that Elijah has indeed come and they did to him whatever they wished just as it is written of him so Elijah does come first and restore all things first thing is it affirms that that expectation is biblical it is true this is actually based on Malachi we read this last week Malachi chapter 4 verses 5 & 6 this is behold I'm going to send you Elijah the Prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord he will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children in the hearts of their children to their fathers so that I will not come in mic the land with a curse there'll be a restoration and it will avert painful judgment but then he asks a question to teach them how is it written the Son of Man will that that he will suffer many things to be treated with contempt interestingly enough this is Jesus probably referring to Isaiah 53 it's important that Jesus himself for first Isaiah 53 because he his own self understanding of the Messiah is that he's going to suffer and die that's important the next question is how on earth did Elijah already come then he confused it's it's healthy it's okay a little confused the disciples were confused how to relies you already come and Jesus explains he came in the purpose in the person of John John wasn't literally Elijah but he came in the spirit and power of Elijah so not the literal literal Elijah was on the mountain with him just a minute ago but John came in the spirit and power of Elijah scripture says and he says in verse 13 they did to him whatever they wished meaning that it in a sense he came but he didn't restore all things that is a future event at least that's my understanding of the eschatology is that in the second coming of Christ there is Elijah comes restores all things that's the thing they're talking about he's talking at his first coming where he along with Elijah ends up being rejected ultimately so he came but he didn't restore all things yet how do I make sense of all this again Jesus has two comings in Elijah in the same sense as Jesus has two comings Elijah innocence has two as well that'll be my interpretation my understanding I think it's I think it's true the first time it's John in the spirit and power of Elijah but he's ignored and killed he's a forerunner of Jesus is suffering and death just like Jesus will suffer and die John suffered and died the second time around Elijah shows up we read about this in the book of Revelation I believe Elijah shows up and this time it is bringing revival this great Jewish revival and the way is prepared and they do receive the Messiah just as many Jews will come to the Lord in that time so I think that that's I think that that's right now I do and have proper humility because when it comes to eschatology it's probably one of the toughest areas of scripture to really get everything right and godly men have never made fools of themselves than when they tried to make predictions based on what they thought about the text usually because they thought everything was supposed to happen in their lifetime I mean pick a generation they always think it has to happen within 20 years always 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s 2010 it's gonna ramp up because we're hitting exactly 2000 years from the life of Christ real soon here and I just know it's just gonna ramp up even more my thought is no one knows the day or the hour put your calculator away wait on the Lord but that was my view of the eschatology of it perhaps perhaps I'm misunderstanding something I think Elijah has two comings I think that's the point of Jesus in this passage is that the first time he was rejected just like Jesus is to be rejected he actually says just as it is written of him about about Elijah Elijah's excuse me some sort of frog jumped into my throat an actual frog okay let's read it again in verse 13 it says but I say to you that Elijah indeed has come that's John the Baptist there's no dispute about that definitely talking about John and they did to him whatever they wished okay they killed him they cut off his head right Herod did it just as it is written of him where's the prophecy about Elijah being killed at a first coming where is this well in a sense it's just typology I don't think it's a direct prophecy I think it's the typology is written of him Elijah when he first showed up in the Old Testament Elijah comes and Jezebel is trying to kill him and the people of Israel are rejecting him as as they're rejecting God and they're worshiping false prophets and he ends up being chased I mean the giant victory on Mount Carmel the response from the king from his wife who's really running the country she says you're gonna die by tomorrow that's not not what he was expecting so what we see is he was recognized by the leaders as a legitimate prophet but he was rejected anyways Elijah recognized were rejected John the Baptist same thing recognized but rejected so I think that this is a typological fulfillment that Jesus is talking about and finally in closing so only got about thirty minutes left now we're closing there's two applications I want to give you guys one is that just as the nuances and they'll they were confused about it the nuance is that there was a first and second coming of Christ even they didn't understand how all those puzzle pieces came together they were literally going to be fulfilled and we too need to have confidence and trust in the fact that God is gonna do what he said he would do that Jesus as he came he will come back and our confidence needs to be in his return even though I have no idea when that's gonna happen and those who say they have an idea of when it's gonna happen chances are they said it was gonna happen 20 years ago and they said it was gonna happen fifty years ago and they said it was gonna have a hundred years ago because we just think everything will happen in my lifetime because my timeline for God to work is from the time I'm born until the time I die so we assume everything's gonna happen there it's just kind of like I think we just make mistakes let me do that but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have great confidence that it will happen in his own time all Scripture will be fulfilled it's coming it's glorious and it's worth waiting for and the kingdom of God will ask forever and we will be part of it and it's worth it the next application is that we have to realize the gravity and the wonder of the glory of Christ sometimes we see Jesus as though he is not closed with his glory and it's just healthy for us to recognize in our prayer when we approach God that we approach to God Almighty then we pray in the name of Christ that I am in him full of glory and Majesty the name above all names the name every every knee will bow every tongue will confess the lordship of Christ we should appreciate him we should appreciate the cross and appreciating the cross this might this might help you next to me think and meditate on the cross is don't know this that when the disciples saw Jesus on the cross they would have these three guys would have known what they had seen on the mountain that him shining in his own glory the ultimate Messenger of God he was on the cross dying and that would have made little sense to them at the time but shortly thereafter it would have clicked that's what he gave for me that's what he suffered for me to be forgiven and although all I want to do is invoke our appreciation and our love and our worshipfulness to our Savior let's pray LOI thank you for the sacrifice and love of Jesus Christ the power and the glory and the majesty of Christ clothed in human flesh come humbly and lowly a servant revealed as just in a glimpse on this Mount of Transfiguration but but Lord we pray that we would we would have that glimpse ourselves and that we would see you art you are he who shines in his own glory and that when we say Jesus it is the most awe-inspiring name there is the name above all names fill us with wonder appreciation gratitude Lord for your goodness and your love we thank you God we thank you for your humility and for your glory let us take neither for granted we worship you we bless your name we appreciate your sacrifice that the blood that you spilled for us was was your blood was the blood of the glorious one for the for the life of sinners we're so grateful God let us rest in you and have peace in you in Jesus name Amen I didn't even mention it but there's another interesting thought which is that Moses when he died because of his failures he wasn't allowed to see the promised land or to be in it he could see it from afar but now that he's standing there with Jesus where is he he's in the mountaintop in the promised land and so in a sense it's like where I should have missed was always things I should mention in studies but this should've mentioned it the beautiful thing though is that Moses who couldn't enter because of sin when he's with Jesus he can enter and I think that's a beautiful picture itself of the gospel yeah

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